Legislature(2017 - 2018)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/06/2018 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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+= SB 155 REAL ESTATE APPRAISAL MNGMT. COMPANIES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 131 RELOCATION ASSISTANCE FOR FED. PROJ/PROG TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
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HOUSE BILL NO. 131                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An   Act  relating   to   relocation  assistance   for                                                                    
     federally assisted public  construction and improvement                                                                    
     projects and  programs; and providing for  an effective                                                                    
     date."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:05:57 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon directed attention to HB 131.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
LAURA  STIDOLPH,  STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE ADAM  WOOL,  stated                                                                    
that Representative Wool was  currently unavailable, and she                                                                    
was   working  on   behalf  of   the  House   Transportation                                                                    
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Stidolph  addressed  the  Sponsor  Statement  (copy  on                                                                    
file):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     House Bill 131  would allow an increase  of the maximum                                                                    
     relocation  benefits   available  to  a  person   or  a                                                                    
     business   displaced   by   federally-funded   highway,                                                                    
     bridge,  or  facilities   project.  In  2012,  Congress                                                                    
     relaxed  the  eligibility  criteria and  increased  the                                                                    
    maximum reimbursement limits for states' relocation                                                                         
     assistance  payment  programs  when they  passed  their                                                                    
     transportation  authorization  and  funding  bill,  the                                                                    
     Moving Ahead for Progress in  the 21st Century Act, aka                                                                    
     MAP-21. Prior to MAP-21, the payment rates hadn't been                                                                     
     changed for 30 years.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     These  changes  went  into   effect  October  1,  2014.                                                                    
     Unfortunately, Alaska Statute  continues to reflect the                                                                    
     more  stringent eligibility  criteria  and the  smaller                                                                    
     maximum reimbursement limits.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     HB131  will also  protect  Alaska's approximately  $700                                                                    
     million   annual   allocation    of   Federal   Highway                                                                    
     Administration  and   Federal  Aviation  Administration                                                                    
     funding by bringing the State into compliance.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Having  an  equivalent  state statute  is  one  of  the                                                                    
     requirements  for  a  state   to  receive  a  delegated                                                                    
     authority  to  independently   administer  the  federal                                                                    
     program.  Additionally, being  out of  compliance, even                                                                    
     for   a  short   period   of   time,  jeopardizes   our                                                                    
     relationship  with our  funding  partners, putting  our                                                                    
     entire program at risk.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Further,  the  bill  would  provide  that  a  displaced                                                                    
     person or business in the  state would be retroactively                                                                    
     eligible for  an increased federal maximum  benefit for                                                                    
    relocation expenses incurred after October 1, 2014.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:09:06 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Stidolph discussed the Sectional Analysis (copy on                                                                          
file):                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section   1       amends  AS   34.60.010   to   clarify                                                                    
     applicability  and intent,  adopting and  incorporating                                                                    
     by referencing the  corresponding federal law's payment                                                                    
     amounts available to  displaced persons. Clarifies that                                                                    
     federally  assisted  programs   subject  to  relocation                                                                    
     assistance  and  real  property  acquisition  practices                                                                    
     includes public construction and improvement projects.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section  2    repeals and  reenacts AS  34.60.040(c) to                                                                    
     clarify  eligibility   for  displacement   payments  in                                                                    
     accordance  with  corresponding   federal  law,  mirror                                                                    
     federal  language,  and   increase  the  maximum  fixed                                                                    
     payment  in   lieu  of  itemized   reimbursements  from                                                                    
     $20,000 to $40,000 for displaced parties.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3    amends  AS 34.60.040(d) payment  amount in                                                                    
     accordance with corresponding federal law.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4    amends AS 34.60.050(a)  payment amount and                                                                    
     dwelling  owned/occupied  period   for  eligibility  in                                                                    
     accordance with corresponding federal law.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section  5 -  amends  AS 34.60.060  payment amounts  in                                                                    
     accordance with corresponding federal law.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section  6      amends  uncodified  law   to  establish                                                                    
     retroactive effective date of law to                                                                                       
     October  1,  2014   in  accordance  with  corresponding                                                                    
     federal law.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7  provides for an immediate effective date.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:10:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   MacKinnon  asked   if   the  administration   was                                                                    
supportive of the bill.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
HEATHER  FAIR, STATEWIDE  RIGHT-OF-WAY CHIEF,  DEPARTMENT OF                                                                    
TRANSPORTATION  and PUBLIC  FACILITIES, JUNEAU,  answered in                                                                    
the affirmative.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Bishop  wondered whether  the bill could  lead to                                                                    
increased payments  to affected parties along  the right-of-                                                                    
way, from an acquisition standpoint.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fair  replied that it  could lead to  increased payments                                                                    
to  affected parties.  She  stated that  the  intent was  to                                                                    
bring the federal regulations into  the present-day costs to                                                                    
relocate a  family. She  remarked that  the state  match was                                                                    
very small,  and would  come out  of the  appropriation. The                                                                    
state match  appropriation was  approximately 10  percent of                                                                    
the  total federal  appropriation, and  was included  in the                                                                    
department's capital budget.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  von Imhof  stressed that  relocating was  different                                                                    
than compensating market value for the land loss.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fair answered in the  affirmative, and noted that market                                                                    
value  minimum was  first paid  for the  acquisition of  the                                                                    
property for a  project. Additionally, relocation assistance                                                                    
was paid where applicable.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  von  Imhof recalled  that  there  was previously  a                                                                    
$20,000  maximum to  relocate a  farm, business,  or family.                                                                    
That  number would  be  changed to  $40,000,  which was  the                                                                    
federal government's maximum.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fair stated that  there were different numbers available                                                                    
for families  versus businesses and  farms. She  agreed that                                                                    
the numbers  had increased,  and in  some cases  the numbers                                                                    
had been doubled.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche asked  if the  numbers  provided were  for                                                                    
non-residential properties.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fair agreed.  She noted that the  federal government had                                                                    
not increased those amounts in over thirty years.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche queried  the  process  of determining  the                                                                    
escalation number.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fair  replied that they  used historical data  of actual                                                                    
relocations. She  remarked that  the numbers were  still set                                                                    
based on actual expenses.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:15:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  explained that  the fiscal note  did not                                                                    
reflect   cost  to   the  state,   although  the   bill  had                                                                    
retroactive   costs  dating   to  2014.   She  queried   the                                                                    
accumulated additional  GF spend  or federal spend  would be                                                                    
on those retroactive  costs. She stressed that  the date was                                                                    
used, because that was the point of authorization.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fair   affirmed  that  the   date  was  based   on  the                                                                    
authorization from  the federal government under  the Moving                                                                    
Ahead for  Progress in  the 21st Century  (MAP 21)  Act. She                                                                    
remarked  that   the  federal   regulations  were   not  yet                                                                    
finalized and  updated, so those would  have the retroactive                                                                    
number. She  noted that there were  no estimated retroactive                                                                    
payments owed for  past payments. She stated  that there was                                                                    
only a small amount estimated for the upcoming four years.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  estimated that  there would  be $100,000                                                                    
given to property owners along rights-of-way.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Fair  answered in  the affirmative,  and the  number was                                                                    
federal funds.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator   von  Imhof   asked  how   the   option  would   be                                                                    
communicated to alert those that were affected since 2014.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fair  replied that the option  was already communicated.                                                                    
She stated  that in  order to  exceed state  maximums, there                                                                    
was a  complex progress process  called the Housing  of Last                                                                    
Resort, with participation from the federal government.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator von  Imhof wondered there were  individuals who felt                                                                    
they  were uncompensated  in 2016,  and  whether they  would                                                                    
know that the option was available.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fair  stated that  there were  no affected  parties that                                                                    
would qualify, because there were very few relocations.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator   von  Imhof   surmised   that   the  lookback   was                                                                    
immaterial, because there were no affected parties.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fair replied in the affirmative.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon OPENED public testimony.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Bishop addressed the fiscal note.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  commented that that the  estimates would                                                                    
be  absorbed in  the State  Transportation Improvement  Plan                                                                    
(STIP).                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche  understood  that there  was  estimate  on                                                                    
future costs in the upcoming four years in STIP.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fair answered in the affirmative.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:21:00 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon pointed out that  a similar bill had been                                                                    
considered by  the committee in a  previous legislature. She                                                                    
felt  that  it  was  troublesome  to  link  with  a  federal                                                                    
statute,  because there  was little  control  over what  the                                                                    
federal government would communicate.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Fair acknowledged  Co-Chair  MacKinnon's concern  about                                                                    
the  link to  the  federal regulation.  She  noted that  the                                                                    
state  was buffered  from  the risk,  because  of the  large                                                                    
federal   percentage.  She   felt   that   it  allowed   for                                                                    
flexibility in prioritizing projects.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  wondered whether there could  be a fixed                                                                    
number as opposed to an open statutory amount.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fair replied in the affirmative.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon highlighted committee business.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
HB  131  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB131 Sectional Analysis.pdf SFIN 3/6/2018 9:00:00 AM
HB 131
HB131 Sponsor Statement .pdf SFIN 3/6/2018 9:00:00 AM
HB 131
HB131 Supporting Documents-Rellocation Assistance Program Q&A.pdf SFIN 3/6/2018 9:00:00 AM
HB 131
SB 155 CS v. D Explanation.pdf SFIN 3/6/2018 9:00:00 AM
SB 155
SB 155 CS work draft version D.pdf SFIN 3/6/2018 9:00:00 AM
SB 155
SB 155 Sectional Version D.pdf SFIN 3/6/2018 9:00:00 AM
SB 155
SB 155 AK Board AMC extension request - Bulletin 2017-02 Extension of Implementation Period.pdf SFIN 3/6/2018 9:00:00 AM
SB 155